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Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009, 07:29 pm
Enough to make you spit?

Ick. I leave the country for six weeks and already it's going to the dogs? (No offence.) I've been seeing the sign below crop up on buses lately. Spitting has become such a problem on our buses that Brisbane Transport feels the need to remind passengers that it's not on?

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Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 10:44 am (UTC)
schnee

An obvious exception can be made in the case of tobacco chewers

Or bikers - when I ride my bike, my mouth often dries out, and I have to spit every now and then to get rid of the thick phlegm that accumulates.

Of course, bikers don't usually ride busses, though. :) Or at least not while biking...

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 11:18 am (UTC)
zelox_quo

I'm going to have to call BS on that.

Sigmund Freud was a hack who considered that everything came down to, not only sexual needs, but also the penis. He had no theories which hold any water in now a days psychoanalysis.

Though, he was pretty much the father of 'talking cure' where he talked out the problems of those with nural conditions, thus his name lives on. He did contribute many interesting ideas, though his diagnosis of many problems is entirely incorrect.

Therefore as a result I hold this theory of 'it is done by young men who are sexually unsatisfied' to be entirely incorrect. For example in my school, those young men who were recieving the most sex out of all of us were the most likely to spit. It is more of a position on the ladder of society and where you fit in group wise/what you want to appear as subconsiously rather than anything to do with sex. I can attest, I never spat as a young man, and had no sex at all, I still don't spit and have still not had much if any sex. So, can use the same logic you used to support your theory to discredit it.

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 09:53 am (UTC)
guma_kawauso

I find myself wondering when they will also need a sign for defecation and urination.

But what if you sneeze out a nasty wad of phglem and it's an honest accident?

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 10:11 am (UTC)
zelox_quo

Going to the dogs, eh'.

I'll have you know that I practice good hygene and also social practices (for Australian social situations).

For all of the years of catching public transport I have seen many things. People drinking alcohol, sniffing paint (sprayed into Coke containers), sleeping (sometimes with a bit of drool, yes), singing, kissing (french style with lot 'o' tongue, bleh) but have not yet seen someone spit. Especially in a bus.

I assume this is not a result of people spitting, but a result of Krudd's speach to everyone to keep clean etc... and all of the money spent for advertising as a result. Therefore, this is part of the money spent rather than as a result of people being unclean asshats. Most likely at least.

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 12:22 pm (UTC)
culdo

If only I were equipped to draw Geiger, I'd love to illustrate a panel displaying a little old lady, sniffing curiously about as smoke rose from the top of her head, behind her, a cross-legged blushing alien whistling non-chalantly with his second mouth as Tom Skerrit the bus driver came up the aisle with a heavy duty DNA testing kit. For added effect, a small detail of a hole in the bus floor just beneath the (still rather alive) old lady, acidic saliva dripping with metal onto the passing pavement below (although why the bus is still moving despite Mr Skerrit's inattention to the wheel concerns me...this bus is doomed in so many ways...might as well have a small panel in the corner of a hook-handed Dennis Hopper giggling at the whole affair).

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 03:50 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat

Um, you get points for a humorous, if somewhat macabre, interpretation of the sign.

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 04:15 am (UTC)
culdo

No points necessary, but I will explain that I practically rolled out of sleep this morning and your message was the first thing I read with groggy eyes. I thought it was funny that spitting was so serious as to equip operators with DNA kits, so I thought, "What could make this spit so vile?" and the only thing I could think of was that of the Aliens in the movies...is this so insane a leap?

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 04:26 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat

For that hour? Not at all. :)

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 04:25 am (UTC)
culdo

erf...I'm sorry, Marko. I wasn't thinking straight. I'll be sure to clear my head first before replying to these sorta things from now on.

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 04:31 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat

There's nothing you need apologise for. I was a little taken aback (the mental image of the hollowed-out granny), that's all.

May I ask where your icon came from, by the way? It's quite eye-catching, even though it looks a bit like an Australian possum to me.

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 04:50 am (UTC)
culdo

That hour? That was only the first 15 minutes of consciousness...and then my phone wouldn't send it, so I had to hop on my laptop and rewrite it...should've been getting ready for work (late again of course) :P

If I could turn that pic into a rat, I would, but I think it's just as fitting as I've ever found, even if I did stoled it. Check out my journal, it should be visible to you. There's an even bigger pic a couple posts back.

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 12:32 pm (UTC)
higgs_raccoon

Be thankful you don't live in Britain, where it seems spitting in the street is a national pastime amongst certain sections of the population. A thoroughly disgusting and obnoxious habit which I see as a sign of social decay.

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 10:47 pm (UTC)
marko_the_rat

Ugh! I couldn't agree more! I'm sorry to see that spitting is becoming an issue here.

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 11:05 pm (UTC)
higgs_raccoon

At least the sign in your buses is ambiguous, and the DNA kits issued in Brisbane might be to collect evidence against people spitting on the floors of the buses. In the UK, these kits have for years been issued to public transport staff because of sub-human filth spitting on them. How messed up is that?

One of many similar news articles: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3616156.stm I hope this sort of attack is not becoming prevalent back home.

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 09:25 pm (UTC)
captpackrat

Spitting is pretty nasty, but I find it hard to believe that they would actually spend the money on DNA testing to catch spitters. And what do they compare the samples to?

I could just see this on an episode of CSI.
"This murder suspect's DNA is a match to a perp who spit on the 4:15 to Ipswitch last March."
"He's going to find this evidence hard to swallow."
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 03:56 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat

Eee! I love it! And we have a National Criminal Investigation DNA Database the results could be compared against, but I suspect this is more of an empty threat.

Tue, Jul. 28th, 2009 09:48 pm (UTC)
tarah_rosemoon

Wow I wish we had signs like that here. It grosses me out when I see people spitting. I've had to avoid little messes in the street and even push my friends out of the way before it's too late. With all the nastiness in the street this is why I don't allow shoes in my room.

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 12:22 am (UTC)
harvardheinous

Ewww!

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 01:40 am (UTC)
hegdish

I can't believe this! I can't imagine anyone spitting on a bus! Have you seen it happen? Who does this? Wow. Just, wow.

Wed, Jul. 29th, 2009 03:40 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat

No, no! I've never seen it myself. Hopefully it is just, as Zelox suggested, part of the PM's push for better hygiene (which I missed but I expect it in turn would be in response to the H1N1 virus), and not in response to a recently arisen problem with unauthorised expectoration on our public transport network. But the angry tone of the notice combined with the threat of DNA analysis makes me suspect otherwise.

Edited at 2009-07-29 03:43 am (UTC)