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Fri, Aug. 13th, 2004, 09:44 pm
It could be worse...

From the other side of the road, I saw a stall for the Socialist Alliance who are running candidates in the upcoming federal election. One wonders why they bother, really. I admit I did flirt with the hard left when I was young (hardly surprising, seeing as both my parents were active members of the Communist Party in Finland) but I've never taken them seriously. They have practically no electoral appeal and will make no impact on the election at all. So why am I telling you this? It amuses me that they bother running candidates at all. And that I'm not some frothing, unreasoning Leftie.

And in related news, Parliament passes a ban on gay marriage. Only the Greens and the Democrats voted against it. Is it any wonder they are the only major parties I'm willing to vote for? Of course it's not just on this issue; we see alike on a lot of things (I used to be a member of the Australian Democrats) but it's a good emotive hook to focus on.
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Fri, Aug. 13th, 2004 04:56 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat

I don't know about the vagaries of the American bill that got knocked down, so I can't comment. A gay rights group in Australia is considering challenging it in the High Court as unconstitutional. I believe the American bill had a provision about how it couldn't be challenged in court, which (with respect) couldn't have been good for democracy. That makes it a beast of a different colour and no doubt much easier to vote against.

Fri, Aug. 13th, 2004 06:44 am (UTC)
arakinuk

Was pretty disappointed/disgusted to see that California has annuled the marriages which took place in SF. Certainly, it seems that many lawyers are getting fat on this issue :(.

Fri, Aug. 13th, 2004 12:03 pm (UTC)
porsupah

Extremely disappointing indeed. I'll be waiting to read what the Bay Guardian has to say on the issue - easily the best journalism in the Bay Area, and in a free paper, to boot.

And yet, there's still a large minority willing to vote for Bush's return to power in November.. but, I'm hopeful that the more the US gets to actually see real examples of loving couples that happen not to be of different genders, and understand the issues involved, such as hospital visitation rights, and inheritance, the softer the "middle ground" opposition will become.

Fri, Aug. 13th, 2004 04:58 pm (UTC)
marko_the_rat

From the point of view of the narrow legal question the Supreme Court was called on to answer, I agree with the court's decision. The local authority can't over rule the decision of the State authority just because they're of the opinion it was unconstitutional. That's for the court to decide. I'm sorry to see the self-proclaimed "moral majority" win, but I'm a big believer in the rule of law.

I think the "correct" resolution to this issue is inevitable, given time.

Fri, Aug. 13th, 2004 03:14 pm (UTC)
sissycoon

Well, there's a difference between a hard Leftie and a liberal. Glad you're much more the latter ... In the U.S., the proposed Constitutional amendment (which I'm delighted went to defeat) poses a threat even to civil unions given its language, which helped propel its defeat.