Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006, 06:30 am
Will no one stop this madness?
On of the great traditions of Australians, especially when abroad, is having vegemite
on toast. In fact, I'm having some now. One of the things I looked forward to doing when in America was to bring a small jar of vegemite with me and share it with my American hosts (which is also an Australian tradition). Vegemite is quintessentially Australian. So why is it that America is banning vegemite
and going so far as to search Australians when they cross the border to make sure they don't smuggle any in with them? It is deemed illegal, because it contains folate which under American laws can only be added to breads and cereals. This from the government that wants its citizens to eat more folate
, especially pregnant women. I'm sure you could go into any chemist and buy folate supplements, so why are Australians banned from enjoying vegemite on their toast when travelling in your fine country? I'm sure I'll enjoy my trip anyway, but if any of you want to protect this rat from vegemite withdrawal, ask the FDA or your local representative (politicians are always more responsive around election time) why they've taken the extraordinary step of preventing Australians from bringing it in and banning its sale. If enough people ask, they may get around to correcting what I hope
is just an administrative oversight.
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 09:05 pm (UTC)
narwhale: I wonder about marmite...
Fuck this shit. I only have one jar left... World Market sells vegemite, but that's in Atlanta, and I'm not going to be back there until Turkey Day. It better still be available!
I was going to have someone who might be visiting in a few months try and bring me a few of the big jars, but that might not work either. Okay, so normally I'm a big patriot, but right now I HATE THIS COUNTRY.
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 09:21 pm (UTC)
marko_the_rat: Re: I wonder about marmite...
I heard an interview on JJJ with someone who sells Australiana in America for expatriots like yourself. He says he sold out long ago and has to explain the situation to lots of disappointed expatriots.
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 09:23 pm (UTC)
No vegemite? Seriously?
(More evidence to support my theory that the US electoral government system is a front invented by the media for entertainment purposes, and for the past fifteen years or so, all new laws have actually been written and ratified by a particularly obtuse and inflexible computer program.)
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 09:26 pm (UTC)
Why does vegemite need to have additional folate added to it?
Don't the ingredients already contain some?
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 09:30 pm (UTC)
huskythedog: Look north?
I know that as a former stock boy in two different Canadian grocery store that you can buy Vegemite in Canada, although it is a very slow seller and usually expires before anyone buys it. You can get Marmite here, I have seen it on the grocery shelves in Indiana. So, what you need to do when you are in the states, is hop into a car, drive north into Canada, pick up some of your Vegimite, then hide it under your coat and back into the US. I suggest taking the North Portal back into the US, it is on the border between Saskatchewan and North Dakota, no one ever gets stopped there (not that many people cross there).
Now I know why I have never seen a jar of Vegemite here. That is one of the strangest things ever.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 09:10 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat: Re: Look north?
I won't be going anywhere near the border on this visit. I'm told they even check Aussies going across the border, but if it's an obscure spot without a border guard...
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 09:32 pm (UTC)
Only T'rists eat Vegemite, because Vegemite is banned.
Erf, In all seriosness through, I like trying new flavors. A bit dissapointed in that one. My country has strayed so far from the things that made it great that I dont even wanna call it America anymore.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 09:17 am (UTC)
How very odd. If Bristol Farms and Whole Foods are selling it on their shelves, I guess I can make a stop at one of them to pick up a jar. I'm still too scared to carry some with me. I've heard stories about US Customs.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 10:09 am (UTC)
Well, after reading this this
, I wouldn't try, either.
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 10:03 pm (UTC)
Holy crap! I was never too interested in eating it before but now that I cant have it I really want some! It seems you can still find it lingering around on Ebay,thats where I get other banned items such as absinth due to loop holes about novelty
Tue, Oct. 24th, 2006 10:16 pm (UTC)
Man is the American government getting stupider every year?
*hugs the ratty* Sorry to hear they're giving you trouble by s**t-stirring an Australian tradition.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 01:11 am (UTC)
If it makes you feel any better, Marmite is being banned for the same reason...
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 03:02 am (UTC)
What's vegemite like? I feel deprived.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 07:52 am (UTC)
Being similar and related to Marmite, it's a dark, very gooey spread made from yeast extract, and it's got a very salty taste. Goes well with toast and/or cheese, if you like briny things.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 07:49 am (UTC)
That is very, very odd when you consider that Vegemite is now produced by an American corporation, Kraft Foods! I suspect the grain industry is behind this. They're a powerful lobby in the U.S. and well, money talks, and the cereal corporations have money to throw around (God knows, they charge us enough for it!). So that ensures that that producers of grain are now entrenched in a relevant position. The handshake between industry and government leads to petty little rules and is nearly impossible to break.
But I don't know if your American hosts would take to Vegemite anyway. I'm one of those people that loves Marmite (which is similar), but half the British population hates it. So I'm not sure what American reaction would be.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 09:11 am (UTC)
But I don't know if your American hosts would take to Vegemite anyway.
They likely won't, but that's not the point! I wanted to be able to share the experience. And thank you for that very thoughtful response.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 10:54 pm (UTC)
You're welcome, though from a personal standpoint I didn't think this merited comment unless I could say something insightful.
I must say, Marko, you're linking Vegemite as the sole embodiment of Aussie culture. I didn't realize you Aussies took it so seriously. For the Americans you visit, and those strangers you interact with, your accent will be Aussie culture enough for them. Bring photos, tell stories, sing Rolf Harris songs, whatever ... Vegemite is not Australia, it's just a part of it.
And, though I recognize that you yourself are not saying stupid things about the American gov't., I'd like to remind everyone else here that has done so, Democrat administrations are and have been just as much slaves to the corporate buck as Republicans have. It's so easy to bash this current administration, but would dissent be so strident if Clinton had done this?
Thu, Oct. 26th, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
Rolf Harris?! Who? As far as we're concerned, he's UK, mate. And we do take vegemite so seriously. Trust me on this.
Wed, Oct. 25th, 2006 12:02 pm (UTC)
Hmm, sounds like I should hit a local World Market this week and buy some, so that I can know what it tastes like before it's banned... I've never had it, and I don't think I'll be going to Australia anytime soon :/
Thu, Oct. 26th, 2006 08:39 pm (UTC)
Hmmm. It was reported on multiple news fronts, which helped me to give it credence. The contraction (such as it is) was also linked to in these pages. But the mere incident of an overzealous US Customs Guard confiscating it is enough to scare me off from carrying it.
And you must admit, even if the initial reports were exagerated (which I'm not entirely convinced of myself yet), this post has been a great one for generating comments. ;)
Thu, Oct. 26th, 2006 03:07 am (UTC)
Never tried the stuff.. had to Wikipedia it to learn more.... sounds bast with cheese... but what kind?
But anyway, I have a couple of things to kick around...
Could this be a ploy from Kraft to get Americans to buy Vegemite? You know, when something's banned in this lovely facisist country, people run to try it.
Could this actually be a ploy from the big American cereal makesrs like General Mills, Post, and Quaker to keep some overseas products from hitting the market?
Anyway, what is it that makes folate "bad?" If it's just a B vitamin, what's the point? Does too much make people talk funny? Look at sheep in odd ways? OR maybe it's the cure for cancer that the US government dosen;t want people to know about...
Thu, Oct. 26th, 2006 12:24 pm (UTC)
America is slowly turning into a commie dictatorship anyway so don't be surprised if more seemingly harmless foreign stuff gets banned. Though not to hate on your guy's beloved yeast paste...but I never was able to grow fond of it:p. I had an Aussie friend send me some, some years back. Bleh:p. Guess its' totally what you're raised with. Salty yeast paste is the best thing I could think of to describe its taste:p. Oh well, we got plenty of crap that we call food that you guys and many others wouldn't really wanna eat:p. Or hell, that I wouldn't recommend. Our foods' got waaaay to much shit in it.
Sun, Dec. 24th, 2006 06:45 am (UTC)
tarirat: Marmite and Vegemite
I just bought some Marmite at my local Meijer store (Northwest Ohio, USA) in the World Foods section, and I tasted the barest bit when I got home... and my impression of it was like taking soy sauce and evaporating away the water, leaving an *extremely* salty resinous substance. If Vegemite is anything like Marmite, it will be a steep, uphill battle for me to pick up a taste for it, unless it can be used to season things instead of being just for spreading onto bread. Don't feel too badly about it, as I've also tried Spam, the American original (it was first marketed in Australia in 1969, the year of my birth), but I found I couldn't stand the stuff and almost got sick from eating it. I'm content with watching and making impressions of Monty Python's Spam sketch. :o)
Tue, Dec. 26th, 2006 04:09 am (UTC)
marko_the_rat: Re: Marmite and Vegemite
like taking soy sauce and evaporating away the water, leaving an *extremely* salty resinous substance
That pretty much describes vegemite, only more flavourful. Isn't it great? And I don't take offence that you didn't like it. I want to share
it with my American hosts; I don't expect them to like
it. Other people have noticed that Americans tend to smear it on thickly like peanut butter and that is definitely not the way to approach vegemite.